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Fears of dramatic loss of population unfounded

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I had a quick look at some numbers on births and deaths. While this excludes emigration and immigration, it's also highly accurate since there's pretty much always a good record when a person is born or dies.

I didn't look at it in full detail yet, but it seems that things may not quite add up -- like if you compare those numbers to population counts, you'd end up with no emigration or even net immigration, which seems unlikely. I'll look at this more closely once final numbers are released.

My theory is that many people working in Finland chose to classify themselves as commuters = they live in Estonia.

I was expecting a population drop similar to Latvia, but the difference is that it's a lot more difficult for a Latvian to commute to another (wealthy) country and come back every weekend, while this is possible for people in Estonia.

I guess detailed census data will give more information about living and working situations, and that should make things clearer. Reply to the comment answer
~ameeriklane [27.03.2012, 16:05]
Another difference is that on last census, people could not attend on-line on this survey from, say, Finland and elsewhere outside the country. Here, a discrepancy is kinda predictable.
~knut albers [27.03.2012, 17:23]
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"Beltadze said that she was sure in one thing: that the Estonian population is over 1.3 million"
Let's hope so. 1,307,787 minus 15,000+ double counted plus 1,800 non counted is still a bit away from 1.3 million Reply to the comment answer
~GoGoGo [27.03.2012, 17:03]
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Oh well that's all right then. Reply to the comment answer
~. [27.03.2012, 20:21]
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Estonia has less people. But it doesn´t reach the economical level of for example Luxenburg or Liechtenstein or even Finnland. Why? Because it is based on some lies. For example: the economy grows. That´s easy, I can also rise the prices of my products and say: Hey see, I make more profit! The economy of my firm rise. Second: "I had been in the party, but I´ve never been a communist." (Ansip). Well, Eichmann said nearly the same words about another party, before he was executed 61 cin Israel. The population is declining, no doubt, but the departments are writing the numbers "beautyful". Before Greece went into the Euro-zone, they wrote theit Economical numbers beautyful. And at least, the not-overworking and tabuisating of the own past. To say, only the Russian was guilty is a little bit to easy. Because, all the excommi functionairie are now on somekind of power here in Estonia. They own firms or comfortable positions in gouvernments. But why do I upset myself?Full Eastern-Europe has the same symptoms and uses the same blabla to their oh so successful economy. Even Ukraine. This gives something to think, or? Reply to the comment answer
~scheileke [05.05.2012, 03:18]
Scheileke, look at the forum of DER SPIEGEL and you have there the same type of people around, doing the same type of "blabla" and sympathising with the president of Ukraine and so on, but at most relativate everything as we know it from here.

The other thing is that journalism in general gone very bad across the board.

The media is more and more biased, publishes more and more undeited press releases and there is no place for investigative journalism anymore.

The outcome can be only very poor, but I don't think that people pretty much but what's written in the media anymore, especially in times of the internet, where one can loook up the facts within seconds and draw their own conclusions.
~Knut albers [06.05.2012, 10:25]
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